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What is ‘zoka’? (Prompt at NaHaiWriMo: My response, added comment and Alan Summers’ reply)

 

 

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15/10/12 (prompt by Scott Abeles: zoka)

Zoka is defined as “the process of creation, transformation, and destruction in nature”. The presence of “zoka” separates “object-based” haiku from “activity-based” haiku. Indeed, some argue that an object-based, zoka-free poem is not, by definition, a haiku.

Not quite sure I get it but here are my attempts at a response to the prompt:

sniveling wind
a puppy looks at me
for a nod

oak shadow—
a nesting moon rusts
on cloud mist

autumn stillness
a doddering mosquito’s
break-away
(Comment I added) 

Honestly, the prompt almost made me sleepless as the term, ‘zoka’, intimidated me but I wrote three, in case, any might be the right response to the prompt. This happens every time I’m confronted with Japanese terms. And yet, as I’ve been resistantly dealing with my doubts whether or not I’ve been writing haiku, I realized like the other evening, some of what I’ve tried to put in lines are quite ‘zoka’.

Learning more of this poetry form is constantly challenging given the many ‘voices’ that spangle the haiku-sphere. I do read and hear them as ‘voices’ rather than this and that ‘form/term’ because as in any art, each line for me, is of the writer’s/artist’s world.

Again, this too, had confused me when first reading haiku. It was a challenge to be ‘objective’ (stripped of the personal or hints of it as perhaps I misunderstood), a view quite alien to Poetry as I know. But I’ve persisted and still do bravely write haiku the way I filter a seeming sea of knowledge on it from a mosaic of my own lenses. I wonder though if it’s valid, ‘voice in haiku, I mean.

(Alan Summers’ reply)

Yes, all debates such as this do enlighten greatly. Thanks for the discussion. And thanks for the challenge, Scott!

Honestly, the prompt almost made me sleepless as the term, ‘zoka’, intimidated me but I wrote three, in case, any might be the right response to the prompt.

It made you write some good haiku using that prompt. Sometimes too easy prompts do not push us into stretching.

You should never feel uncomfortably intimidated, just enough to stretch those writing muscles.

In fact I’ve observed you, and many others, become incredible writers of haiku, in various styles, through NaHaiWriMo prompts, thanks to MDW!

This happens every time I’m confronted with the Japanese terms. And yet, as i’ve been resistantly dealing with my doubts whether or not I’ve been writing haiku, I realized like the other evening, some of what I’ve tried to put in lines are quite ‘zoka’.”

Exactly! What’s good about the NaHaiWriMo page is that we are all in this together, and out of that support there has been some incredible work.

When I did my recent prompt courtesy of MDW, I was astonished how many fine, not just good, but very fine haiku I had to reduce to the nominated number for the forthcoming anthology. And it was a difficult prompt too!

You can always use Google or Bing to search these terms out. I have a huge database backed up on my computer for the benefit of my workshops.

You can always email or FB message if you are not sure. We are always learning, so I keep up to date as much as possible, and have a useful set of resources.

Learning more of this poetry form is constantly challenging given the many ‘voices’ that spangle the haiku-sphere. I do read and hear them as ‘voices’ rather than this and that ‘form/term’ because as in any art, each line is of the writer’s world.”

Exactly!

Again, this too, had confused me when first reading haiku. It was a challenge to be ‘objective’ (stripped of personal perception as perhaps I misunderstood), a view quite alien to Poetry as I know. But I’ve persisted and still do write haiku the way I filter a seeming sea of knowledge on it from a mosaic of my own lenses.”

You have a remarkable style and voice in haiku, it’s a privilege to know you and read your work.

I wonder though if it’s valid, ‘voice in haiku, I mean. Yes, all debates such as this do enlighten greatly. Thanks!

Having a voice in poetry is what we all aspire to, and so I’d say we can also have our own voice in haiku. After all Basho wanted his students (and in a way, we are his students too) to go their own way in haikai literature, not to copy what he had done.

We don’t know what he’d like or dislike but I think many of us would be both surprised and delighted that he’d like certain developments and progressions in haiku. Alan Gibbons

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7 Comments »

  1. Thanks for this Alee. As a neophyte I appreciate the way so many of your posts make me think.

    Edgar

    Comment by edgarhopper | January 26, 2013 | Reply

    • No, not to me. Thanks to you, Edgar!!! It’s great to know my haiku stimulate your thoughts, which I understand they should!!

      Comment by alee9 | January 27, 2013 | Reply

  2. Enjoy this piece about zoka by Don Baird:
    http://www.underthebasho.com/2013-issue/features/85-zoka.html

    Comment by haikutec | January 7, 2018 | Reply

    • Hi, Alan!! Thanks for posting this piece by Don, always something new to learn.

      It’s been a while since we connected. But I haven’t been writing in a while, hence, not submitting as much as I used to, and I’m glad to have found out only recently that you’ve taken over cattails. Knowing this, I’ll try to submit when I’m ready.

      Thanks again.

      Comment by alee9 | January 8, 2018 | Reply

      • Hi Alee!

        I’ve not taken over Cattails, that’s the wonderful Sonam Chhoki from Bhutan:
        http://www.cattailsjournal.com/submissions.html

        But I was asked to be new President of the United Haiku and Tanka Society that publishes Cattails:
        http://unitedhaikuandtankasociety.com/officers-biographies

        If you have anything that is ready to submit or be edited for a submission it would be wonderful to see you in the magazine! 🙂

        warm regards,

        Alan

        Comment by haikutec | January 8, 2018

      • Hi, Alan!

        Great to hear from you 🙂 So sorry for this delayed reply but life, for me, has been quite oddly swirling in ways that has blocked my ‘haiku-senses’ 😦 I keep trying to rev it up, and maybe sometime soon, I would have the courage to submit to cattails again. I hope to be in touch with you more often though about new directions where I seem to be more comfortable these days like these works at otata. Thanks again!

        With my warmest,
        Alee

        Comment by alee9 | February 28, 2018

  3. Hi Alee,

    This issue of Cattails due out April is one of our largest ones! The haiga details will be up for the next submissions which open 1st July (midnight) GMT and close 15th August (midnight) GMT. So do check in July: http://www.cattailsjournal.com/submissions.html

    The April issue will make its way next month:
    http://www.cattailsjournal.com/currentissue.html

    I’ve seen you have been busy with your haiku in various places, congratulations!!!

    warm regards,
    Alan
    President, United Haiku and Tanka Society
    co-founder, Call of the Pag

    Comment by haikutec | March 2, 2018 | Reply


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